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		<title>More About Ric Edelman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When in my last post, I criticized some of Ric Edelman’s practices and fees, I felt a bit queasy.  Was I being unfair? I reached my conclusions by reading the handout material and by what he said in a seminar.  I also studied his web site, which disclosed his fees.  But I did not have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When in <a href="http://www.keyfeeonly.com/edelman-financial-bigger-isn%E2%80%99t-necessarily-better/" target="_self">my last post</a>, I criticized some of Ric Edelman’s practices and fees, I felt a bit queasy.  Was I being unfair?</p>
<p>I reached my conclusions by reading the handout material and by what he said in a seminar.  I also studied his web site, which disclosed his fees.  But I did not have direct access to a client’s portfolio, so I felt somewhat tentative in my judgments.  But today’s post by Allan Roth <a href="http://moneywatch.bnet.com/investing/blog/irrational-investor/an-interview-with-ric-edelman-is-high-cost-indexing-an-oxymoron/720/" target="_blank">An Interview with Ric Edelman &#8211; Is High Cost Indexing an Oxymoron?</a> confirmed my suspicions.</p>
<p>Roth analyzed an Edeleman client’s portfolio, and he also spoke to Edeleman. Roth reached the same conclusions I had about the high fees, and he also questioned Edelman’s recommendation of not paying off a mortgage.  Finally he confirmed my belief that Edelman was not paying attention to <strong><a href="http://moneywatch.bnet.com/investing/blog/irrational-investor/asset-location-location-location/153/?tag=content;col1" target="_blank">asset location</a></strong>, since he found the same allocations in the IRA accounts as in the client’s taxable accounts.</p>
<p>But enough criticism.  The rest of this post is about Edelman’s book <em><strong>The Lies About Money</strong></em>, which I <em><strong>can</strong></em> recommend.  In the first two chapters he persuasively lays out the case for diversification and for not trying to time the market.  This is a very important message which many investors still do not get.  Then he explains the advantages of mutual funds.</p>
<p>But it in his fourth chapter, <strong>The Demise of the Retail Mutual Fund Industry</strong>, that he shines.  He essentially demolishes (active) retail mutual funds.  For starters, he discusses the frequent manager changes, the costs of active management, and the dangers of style drift.  And this is just the beginning; he discusses <strong>25 reasons</strong> why you should not use a typical (active) retail mutual fund.</p>
<p>Not satisfied with that, Edelman actually put together <strong>A Mutual Fund Scandal Timeline</strong> outlining the abuses that have been alleged or proven from 2003 to 2007.  It takes him a <strong>&#8220;mere&#8221;</strong> 40 pages to summarize the questionnable practices and allegations of abuse.  If that is not enough to make you question whether your mutual fund or stockbroker is actually your friend, then nothing will.  So buy the book or get it out of the library simply for Chapter 4.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>The financial services business is fraught with conflicts of interest, high fees, misleading ads, and general confusion for the typical investor.  Sorting through this mess is not easy.  As William Bernstein says, “Both mutual fund companies and brokerage houses know more ways than you can count of fleecing you without your knowing it.”</p>
<p>To be continued.</p>
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		<title>Edelman Financial:  Bigger Isn’t Necessarily Better</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because Edelman Financial Services is opening six offices in the New York/ New Jersey area, I accepted an invitation to attend a seminar by Ric Edelman, the well-known author, radio host and investment manager.  The talk was held at the luxurious Hilton Hotel in nearby Short Hills last week. Here is my review.  As a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because <a title="Edelman Financial Services" href="http://www.ricedelman.com" target="_blank">Edelman Financial Services</a> is opening six offices in the New York/ New Jersey area, I accepted an invitation to attend a seminar by Ric Edelman, the well-known author, radio host and investment manager.  The talk was held at the luxurious Hilton Hotel in nearby Short Hills last week.</p>
<p>Here is my review.  As a public speaker, I gave him an A+.  He was entertaining and informative, and offered a very clear piece of advice: Buy-and-hold a diversified portfolio of low-cost institutional mutual funds. Certainly, I would recommend his firm over a broker from Ameriprise, Smith Barney, Merrill Lynch, etc.</p>
<p>Still, I would only give him a B to a B+ as an investment manager.  I realize that it takes a certain amount of chutzpah (nerve) for a solo practitioner like me to judge someone whose firm manages approximately $4 billion and has thousands of clients – my goodness, Barron’s rated him the No. 1 independent<strong> </strong>financial advisor in 2009 – but I believe it is my responsibility to give you my opinion.  Read on, and see if you agree with my assessment.</p>
<p><strong>Points of Agreement</strong></p>
<p>First of all, let me state the areas of agreement.  I think his basic message is absolutely correct.  Most individual investors have so many misconceptions and make so many mistakes that their results are generally terrible.  Edelman provides a useful service in summarizing the theory, evidence, and his personal experience to educate the public on what really works.  He correctly points out that investing in safe instruments such as CDs is just about guaranteed to cause penury in retirement, because the “safe” investments don’t keep up with inflation, especially after taxes are considered.</p>
<p>He convincingly explains in great detail the necessity for wide diversification, proper asset allocation and rebalancing.  He also shows that listening to the media is bad for your investment results.  Good for him!</p>
<p>Like so many good investment managers, Edelman recommends having a long-term strategy and the importance of being invested at all times.  He was quite convincing in explaining how past performance is no guarantee of future results.  His down-to-earth “toaster” comparison was so good that I plan to use it myself when the occasion arrives.</p>
<p>He also explained in detail why retail mutual funds are just way too expensive.  These are not just opinions, but are based on facts.</p>
<p>He graphically illustrated the high cost of being “out of the market” for even a short time.  According to the data, provided by Standard &amp; Poor’s, the average yearly return of the S&amp;P 500 from 1994 to 2008 was 6.5% per year, if you were invested all 3,827 days.  If you missed the 10 best days, that’s right only 10 days, your return was actually 0%.  What a convincing comparison for a buy-and-hold all-the-time strategy.</p>
<p>So in general, I applaud Ric Edelman for being on the right track.</p>
<p><strong>Where we disagree</strong></p>
<p>My first criticism is that, although Edelman emphasized the long term cost that inflation inflicts on client portfolios, pointing out that over the long term inflation has been 3.2%, he says that it is “too early” to be concerned about inflation. He is “monitoring the situation” and will change his strategy when he thinks it is appropriate. In my opinion, this is a very strange approach for someone who believes that you cannot forecast the future.</p>
<p>Since markets react very quickly to new information, I worry that Edelman will not be able to change his strategy at just the right time. Why try to “time the market” by saying that inflation is not a concern <strong>now</strong>? To paraphrase an old Wall Street saying, “No one rings a bell to let you know when you should be worried about inflation.”</p>
<p>The question and answer portion of the seminar revealed a position that I take exception to.  Edelman suggests that paying off a mortgage quickly is a mistake, because clients can invest the money for a higher return.  While this is a controversial area, I believe that it is comparing apples to oranges, because mortgage debt is a certain obligation, while investment gains are variable.  As with many personal financial issues, the right answer is <strong>“it depends.”</strong>  There are too many variables in one individual’s life to hand out one-size-fits-all investment advice.  For some people, paying off a mortgage is the right thing to do, depending on their tax situation and their risk tolerance.  The peace of mind a debt-free retirement provides is valuable to some people who are no longer trying to maximize returns.</p>
<p>And, frankly, I am concerned that he is recommending something that will give him more assets to manage and therefore increase his fees, without mentioning the conflict of interest.</p>
<p>When I decided to look up Ric Edelman’s previous books, including <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Money-3rd/dp/0060566582/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1256349287&amp;sr=8-2" target="_blank">The Truth About Money</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Lies-About-Money-Portfolio-Future/dp/1416543120/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1256349287&amp;sr=8-3" target="_blank">The Lies About Money</a>, I was surprised to see reviewers on Amazon.com chastising him for his previous rejection of index funds.  While Edelman now (appropriately) denounces actively managed retail mutual funds (because they are a rip off to investors with their high fees and hidden expenses), it’s unconscionable that it took him such a long time to realize that. </p>
<p>It appears that Edelman had been attacking the notion of index funds for years.  Interestingly, he now follows a correct passive approach to investing, which is very similar to index investing.  He just isn’t willing to admit his conversion (or his past mistakes, for that matter).</p>
<p>In addition, I have read that Edelman doesn’t require that his advisors be Certified Financial Planners.  If true, this is a very serious shortcoming. Real financial planners address more than just investments, and while the CFP certification is not a panacea, it does indicate the seriousness to master your craft. More than passing a 10-hour test, the continuing education requirements are invaluable.</p>
<p><strong>Fees and Value</strong></p>
<p>Edelman Financial Services uses low-cost <a href="http://www.investorwords.com/5623/institutional_fund.html" target="_blank">institutional mutual funds</a> and ETFs, as do I.  The firm charges annual management fees of 2% on the first $150,000, 1.65% on the next $250,000, 1.25% on the next $350,000, 1% on the next $250,000, etc.  There is no additional cost for buying and selling mutual funds, which is a plus.  Another good thing is that they are willing to take on clients with modest amounts to invest, as low as $50,000.</p>
<p>However, while all-in costs are less than you might pay a typical stockbroker, I believe that for individuals with as little as $250,000 or $300,000 to invest, his fees are higher than those of a typical independent fee-only financial planner.</p>
<p>An investor with $500,000 will have to pay Edelman $8,375 per year as compared to a typical $5,000 fee to a smaller financial planning firm. An investor with $1,000,000 will pay Edelman $14,000 per year as compared to $10,000 for most boutique firms.  And many of the fee-only planning firms use the same low-cost institutional mutual funds and ETFs that Edelman does.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>I have received mixed reviews from other financial planners regarding Edelman Financial Services.  Some call his portfolios cookie-cutter, which may or may not be a fair description.  Others have pointed out that there is very little attention paid to <strong><a href="http://www.obliviousinvestor.com/introductory-guide-to-asset-location/" target="_blank">asset location</a></strong>, as compared to asset allocation. One financial planner told me that there was no effort to do <strong><a href="http://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Tax_Loss_Harvesting" target="_blank">tax loss harvesting</a></strong>, but another one said <strong>“it depends</strong>” on the client.  These are issues that many investors will not even be aware of, but the answers can influence after-tax returns.</p>
<p>Certainly Edelman’s services are better than working with a typical stockbroker, who might put you into a bunch of expensive retail mutual funds or sell you a variable annuity.</p>
<p>However, investors should understand that they are paying a premium for a celebrity’s name on the door.  And something a potential client should definitely ask is how much financial planning will be done, in addition to investment management.  The answer to that may also be <strong>“it depends.”</strong></p>
<p>For a second opinion, and to help do a cost comparison, use “Find an Advisor” at the National Association of Personal Financial Advisors’ (NAPFA) <a href="http://findanadvisor.napfa.org/Home.aspx " target="_blank">web site</a> and interview other financial advisors.</p>
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